60-2 Wheel Decoder setting help (Hyundai Tiburon v6)

[mac1]

I want to install this 3.0 board and I have on the crank 60-2, there is also a cam sensor on the head but from what i read, I wont need it ot determin tdc. But the manual sais I might have issue at higher RPM's?

I need help with settings for wheel decoder,
hall effect 5v square wave
firing order 123456

I read some of the manual and it states:
1. to put the crank and tdc
2. find the tooth that is pointing at the ckp and count the spaces CW till you reach the -2 gap
3.
4.




so far the only relevant info I have found is for a AEM setup seen here
http://www.newtiburon.com/forums/showpo ... ostcount=8

[Matt Cramer]

I read some of the manual and it states:
1. to put the crank and tdc
2. find the tooth that is pointing at the ckp and count the spaces CW till you reach the -2 gap
3.???
4. Profit!

Sorry, couldn't resist, but it seems you're on the right track. A Hall sensor is unlikely to have high RPM issues. Let us know if you run into any difficulties.

[mac1]

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/9281 ... .33.32.jpg verified tooth at the ckp sensor when at TDC

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/9281 ... .35.28.jpg looking down the crank

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/9281 ... .35.38.jpg and here's the tooth
CCW I get 54 spaces before the -2 gap
and obviously 3 spaces cw

[mac1]

here she is updated to reflect the post below

[jsmcortina]

So have you followed the instructions in the manual for finding tooth#1 angle ?

James

[mac1]

i'm sorry but does that pic not show it?

[mac1]

Click ----> for larger view http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/9304 ... ttings.jpg


Ok I think that will do it. I will attempt starting but I need to hookup a wideband. What I did for these settings:

60 teeth / 120* for a V6 with 123456 firing order

tooth #1 angle = tooth 47 which is 60* btdc
trigger return = 54 which is 8 teeth after (12btdc for cranking based trigger return)

trig pos B = tooth 6 which is 120* after tooth #1(trigger A)
trigger return = 14 which is 8 teeth after

trig pos c = tooth 26 which is 120* after trigger B
trigger return = 34 which is 8 teeth after

[jsmcortina]

i'm sorry but does that pic not show it?

Are you running MS1 or MS2?

Your settings are in "MS1 talk" but this topic is in the MS2 support section.

James

[mac1]

correct actually I'm doing ms1.

[mac1]

so it succesfully runs and drives good using the wheel decoder calculator but now i'm battling the OEM shared clt and iat. Using easytherm has netted me no changes.

-I removed both bias resistors from the MS board and used the "how to" on figuring out the bias resistor thought it seems I need to know math equations to figure it out. anyways i got 2020 ohms for my bias.

I have easytherm 5.0 and run as administrator but no matter where I write the files, they never net me any changes whatsoever. Is there a how to on using it somehwere?

I have never had to use easytherm in so many years as this is the first time I do something other then Ford.

[Matt Cramer]

This is something I put together a while ago - IIRC it covers EasyTherm 4.0:

Now, here's how to use EasyTherm with MS1/Extra. When you open EasyTherm, there will be several options you need to set. It defaults to GM sensor calibrations. On our ready-made units, you will leave the bias resistor value set at 2490 ohms; you'll only change this if you have opened the Megasquirt and swapped out the resistors.

The boxes in the middle of EasyTherm are where you enter the sensor calibration data. You will need the sensor resistance at three temperatures. You can obtain this from a factory service manual or simply by testing the sensors in boiling water, ice water, and water at a measured room temperature. The sensor needs to be what's known as a negative temperature coefficient thermistor. This is simply a fancy engineering word for saying the resistance goes down as the temperature goes up.

Next, you need to select the code version. You'll set it to "Custom" for MSnS-E firmware such as 029v. Leave the start address alone. Then you get this information into the code by clicking "Write .inc and .s19 Files." It will prompt you to open an S19 file containing the code. Select the file that corresponds to the MSnS-E version you are using. If you do not have a copy of the MSnS-E firmware, you can download it here:

http://www.msextra.com/manuals/MS_Extra ... _Index.htm

EasyTherm will generate four files. One is an S19 file that will have the same name as the original with "_mod" added to the end of the file name. The other three are .INC files for MegaTune. Their names are airdenfactor.inc, matfactor.inc, and thermfactor.inc.

EasyTherm can load the S19 file into Megasquirt, too. Power down the Megasquirt, open it up, and put the boot jumper in place. Then connect it to the computer and power it up, ideally on a Stimulator. If you power it up on a car, disconnect Megasquirt from any coils or ignition modules it may be connected to. Then specify the COM port where you have Megasquirt attached and click the "Download to MegaSquirt" button. EasyTherm will prompt you to select the S19 file you need; it will be the one that ends in "_mod" that you've just created. It will then download your newly calibrated firmware. Shut down the Megasquirt, remove the boot jumper, and close its case back up.

If you had the firmware you started with in the same folder as your car project, it will automatically put the INC files in the right place. Otherwise, you'll need to copy them so that MegaTune will be able to correctly interpret the sensor data. The default location for these files is in the EasyTherm folder if you have altered a firmware copy in the EasyTherm folder. They go in the mtCfg folder in your project folder. If the project was named car1 and you have the usual folder setup for MegaSquirt, for example, you would want to copy the INC files to this folder:

C:\Program Files\MegaSquirt\car1\mtCfg

Once you've got that taken care of, you will have your firmware uploaded and MegaTune will know what to expect. This takes care of your sensor calibration.

[mac1]

well I downloaded Easytherm4 and followed those instructions, btw I have used this older version of easytherm in the past with success. Now i'm running this on a Windows7 and maybe that's why when i'm downloading to the megasquirt, it reaches record 250 and then goes blank, nothing gets saved anywhere. Cant find the generated files in any folder not even the easytherm folder?